The following is an excerpt from a book that I started writing about Starbucks. This was the “Cliff Burrows” section.
As a Starbucks fan living right in Seattle, once in a blue moon I’ve run into Starbucks leadership. I want to share some thoughts on Cliff Burrows.
Some time ago, a store partner told me a story about meeting Cliff in Seattle at the 4th and Seneca Starbucks. So the story goes, some meeting was supposed to happen and Cliff arrived early. There were cigarette butts just outside the store’s entrance. The store didn’t have extra partners to run outside and sweep the cigarette butts. Cliff, seeing this, grabbed the broom and dustbin and went outside and in a few minutes, swept them all up. I had heard this story and thought, maybe there was some exaggeration going on, always a little amazed at it. Now you’re hearing the story like 3rd-hand, which at this point fits somewhere into the legal definition of “hearsay”. 😉
I’ve heard partners tell me how much they’ve enjoyed meeting him. I will admit, before I met him I was pretty suspicious of him. I’m sure it was the Welsh accent that put my guard up. 😉
On either May 22nd or 23, 2010, (I don’t remember which day) I met Cliff Burrows in person. I was hanging out at 15th Avenue Coffee and Tea. We made nothing more than small talk. I told him how much I had liked the product “Sorbetto” and I was disappointed that it never launched nationally. “Yes, it was a ‘good product,’” he agreed. I knew that a product could be delicious, yet still not be the right recipe for the stores to launch nationally. I knew that Sorbetto had never been a right fit for Starbucks. It tasted delicious, yes. But the machine it was dispensed from looked like it fit in a 7-11, not a Starbucks. It sent the wrong message. And it was stiffly priced for a very small portion. This high-priced dessert wasn’t a hit when it was launched at the height of the recession, and many people were tightening their belts. And I had heard that the Slurpee-like machine was labor-intensive to clean. Still, I liked how it tasted.
Much later, when I read Onward, I could see that some of my gut intuitions about Sorbetto had been right on. Not the right timing to launch it, and not really workable despite its “yumminess” factor.
On that day in May of 2010, I was standing near a long-term partner, in a group of people. Cliff was near me, to my left. A partner who has been with Starbucks more than a decade was across from me. There were a few others around, whom I did not know. I was only making small talk with the person across from me, and somehow, a little coffee got spilled on the floor. I am not even sure where it came from. I had left mine back on the table. The small coffee spill on the floor was directly between me and the long-term partner standing across from me. In an instant, Cliff reached down and wiped it up with the napkin in his hand. It took all of five seconds, and there was nothing dramatic made of it. For like two seconds, I was staring at the back of Cliff’s head as he was cleaning the spill (just a few drops of coffee). The coffee spill was gone.
The thought occurred to me that it was much more powerful that he just got the coffee spill in five seconds, rather than barking out orders that someone needed to clean up a few drops of coffee.
After meeting Cliff Burrows at 15th Avenue Coffee and Tea, I didn’t run into him again for a long time. My routine as an attorney in Seattle doesn’t overlap much with the President of Starbucks Americas. Starbucks executives are constantly flying all over the world, and generally speaking, you can find me right here in Seattle.
It was nearly one year later – on April 30, 2011 – that I again saw Cliff Burrows. Starbucks has always been involved in community service, but in April 2011, had a big push with large-scale marquee community service events around the world. The inspiration for these events was the kick off of the 40th Anniversary celebrations. What better way to celebrate forty years of success than to give back to communities?
Starbucks coordinated these large community service project events in London, Shanghai, Vancouver B.C., Toronto, New York, and Seattle. Both customers and Starbucks partners were welcome to join in and help do work to improve and clean up local communities.
On April 30, 2011, I went to the Seattle big community service event. I ran into Kris Engskov again. We made small talk and I told him that there were partners who had flown up from Texas to be a part of this event. I wasn’t sure if he already knew that, but before the volunteering event began, he met with almost every single one of the Texas partners.
Before the community service began, there were presentations on a stage by leadership talking about community service, what it means for Starbucks and what it means for Seattle. The presentations included Kris Engskov, City of Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn, and Cliff Burrows. Kris played with the audience and said, ‘Does anyone know who came the furthest to be here today?’ And then he announced the group of long-distance partners from Texas who had come up for this event. (One of whom was the really fabulous partner from my 2009 trip to Texas).
At this April event, the way it worked was that you signed up for a project by category. Some people signed up for “outdoor yard work” and there were a number of projects that involved “painting.”
When I got to the event, one of the first people I ran into was a store manager in downtown Seattle, who has been an 8+ year partner, and has known me for years. He was carrying a sign with a number, indicating that he was a team leader of a group. He instructed me, “Melody, go sign up for the “outdoor painting” project to be in my group. I did just that.”
It didn’t take long, and soon the group of 600 volunteers was split out into many small teams of people. Some working at a number of various sites weeding a nearby park, some doing indoor painting, and my group which was “outdoor painting.”
We were given a very large number of wood panels and told to paint them in bright colors. We split up into teams of about 3 people per wood panel. I happened to be standing near two other customers – a married couple – who needed a third body, and so we worked as group on our painting project.
We grabbed a wood panel, and then looked for an open spot. I tried to take our panel to an area where I saw my friends from Texas, but the couple I was with thought that site looked too crowded. Outnumbered, we plopped our wood panel down in a different spot on the very large playground, and got to work.
We picked out brushes, and very brightly colored paints, and then had to figure out if any one of the three of us had any artistic talent at all. The answer really was “No!”
We had been painting for perhaps ten minutes when I realized that teammates in this project had picked a spot immediately adjacent to Cliff Burrows and Kris Engskov, who together, were working on painting a panel. The other two customers didn’t recognize the two executives.
I saw Cliff on his hands and knees hard at work, painting a panel flat on the ground, along with everyone else who had turned out for this event and had signed up for this particular project.
My gut intuition had been confirmed. Cliff Burrows has no problem getting his hands dirty and doing real work.
There was, in fact, one more episode, where I saw Cliff Burrows and Kris Engskov, hard at work doing community service. As most Seattleites know, every July 4th, thousands of people crowd into Gas Works Park in Seattle for a good a view of fireworks over Lake Union. And on July 5th, they’ve left a bit of a mess.
On July 5th, Starbucks volunteers cleaned up the mess left behind at the park, and in the surrounding neighborhood. I met up with a downtown Seattle store manager, and we picked up trash. It wasn’t all that fun, but I don’t think picking up litter is ever really intended to be “fun.” We had coffee beforehand (supplied by Starbucks), and there was a small lunch afterward too.
After about an hour and a half (or maybe up to two hours) of picking up litter, Kerri (the store manager I had come to the event with) and I walked back to the main sign up area to get some lunch. The cleanup work had gone very fast due to the very large turnout of volunteers.
I had been at the event for several hours with Kerri, but it wasn’t until close to the lunch hour that I ran into Cliff Burrows and Kris Engskov. July 5, 2011, had been a bright and sunny day with weather in the mid 70s. It was perfect out. Cliff and Kris both looked like they had worked up a sweat. They both carried huge, completely full bags of litter. I realized that together they had picked up quite a bit of trash. It put my barely half-way full bag to shame. I was literally embarrassed at how small my bag of trash was compared to each of theirs. They must’ve been working their tails off.
We made small talk for a minute, and I kiddingly told the two executives that they should come visit my favorite stores more often, and explained that I was at the event with a favorite downtown Seattle store manager.
And again, my gut intuition was confirmed that Cliff wouldn’t ask his partners to do something he wouldn’t do himself. It was the nebulous feeling I had been left with before after meeting him at 15th Avenue Coffee and Tea Starbucks, and on this day, it was confirmed again. As to Starbucks, community and volunteerism is definitely part of the foundation of Starbucks and everyone is encouraged to participate from top on down. It makes no difference if you’ve got the title President of Starbucks Americas (Cliff), or if you’re a brand new barista.
One might be wondering why I am not mentioning Howard Schultz. It had been in the news that Howard had recently had an elective procedure on his neck. It would have been quite a surprise to see him at this event given that he was likely still resting up from surgery (and given that he seems to always be traveling, I didn’t think he’d be there anyway.)
Since that event, I have at times wondered if all corporate executives are like this? I have absolutely no basis of comparison. While I do live in Seattle, I wouldn’t recognize a Boeing executive or a Microsoft executive (well, I might recognize Bill Gates only because he’s in the news often) or an Amazon.com executive. That question – is community service common for other large corporations, and even to the level of commitment that executives join in? – is a question that remains unanswered to me. Would you ever see Jeff Bezos picking up trash at Gas Works? For me, this commitment to community service at literally every single level of the organization is one of many things separates Starbucks from many other corporations. It’s leadership by example.
I got about 30,000 words into the book and realized that I didn’t have enough to say about Starbucks to fill a whole book. I can write a blog, but a book is a whole different story, pardon the pun. Unless someone writes it for me, I doubt we’ll see a StarbucksMelody.com book. My apologies to Cliff Burrows for putting him on the spot in this blog post. I really do apologize!
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Melody thank you for the detailed commentary on Cliff. I can almost feel as if he would do the same thing at any SB wherever he goes not just Seattle. I have met execs from other companies that have gotten their hands dirty and been involved in community projects perhaps not as big a corporation as SB, but they are out there. I also have to say I am sorry to hear you are not writing your book. The blog is beyond wonderful, but I know your book would have been an added treat to understanding SB especially from a customer’s viewpoint.
Doesn’t surprise me at all about Cliff. His story, as I’ve heard him tell it, starts with sweeping floors in a retail store some years ago. He puts a lot of stock in making sure the little things are perfect and do not distract the customer from seeing all the effort we put in to the interaction. His expectations are high, but as you’ve observed he’s not above doing the work.
As for other executives as a group, I would be willing to bet he’s a bit of an oddity in that sense. I’ve worked in a number of different companies and I would not expect executives to act in this manner. That said, Starbucks draws upon talent in different ways than a lot of companies do. There a lot of evidence of this in the pages of Onward, for sure.
My company had training done by Disney once and we were told everyone’s job description ended in “and pick up trash” – even the CEO’s.
That’s the kind of corporate culture that instills a bigger connection. Nice to hear Cliff has the same perspective.
And Melody, maybe we can get an e-book out of you (I know a publisher…)
Three perfect comments! Thank you! @Greyghost – I’ve actually never heard what Cliff’s background is so I didn’t know that at all. Thank you – you totally rounded out the blog post. @CD – I totally love that – everybody’s job description ends in “pick up the trash.” And you’ve always got great connections. I need a Joanne Gordan in my life. 😉
@purple0022 – I joked for a long while that I was writing the “other onward” because there is no doubt that many of the things that Howard did in 2008 had a really big effect on me – both up and down. I didn’t like all the changed he shuffled in the door, but I was caught in the excitement at every step of the way. I never felt like I had anykind of coherent story. What a dull story. No one dies. No one goes to jail. There aren’t even any drugs or alcohol or good romances in the story. It’s hard to make anything readable that will catch readers’ attention. I know that Kelly (the person who helps with this blog) had liked the book a lot more than I did. Maybe I’ll go back to it, but right now it’s on hold. And I have to focus on work. In any case, look at this thread: I thought this was a good episode from the book, but not a single person has liked it on the facebook page, and only 3 comments. It’s funny – the things that >I< think are interesting seem to be dull to my readers, and vice versa. While I know that I produce somethings that people like, and that some of my content resonates with readers, I'm not terribly good at predicting what will be a wider success. I don't know, and I haven't gotten it figured out! Thanks though for being here and your thoughts. Hey, and how have you met so many execs? 🙂 LOL Really, I don't know how people hob nob with execs! LOL 😉
Melody, while I really appreciate your blog entries and your recaps on the Starbucks world from a non-partner point of view I feel you put way too much pressure on yourself. You could easily cater to all the Starbucks haters and the people with negative points of view. Yes, that’d get you more hits and get you more book sales but we both know that’s not why you started this blog or what you set out to create. This website and anything that comes of it is yours.
I think maybe sometimes you get distracted by the numbers, what you need to remember is that despite the number of readers you may have or the number of Twitter users who follow you, is that we all came here for a reason, you gave us an alternative, if it wasn’t for you my blog wouldn’t exist, heck, if it wasn’t for you for you my whole Starbucks online life wouldn’t exist. You underestimate what you have done for us partners, you have put me in touch with people who have told me “Dave, you’re working too hard, calm down or you’ll burn out!” or people who’ve said “Dave – keep going, yes, it’s tough, but it’s worth it!” even when I’ve been at my lowest points.
This blog is ALL YOURS Melody, you can tell us stories of good or bad experiences you’ve had with this company and you know what? we respect them, because they come from a GOOD place. I can tell you’d love to have a really HUGE blog – but if getting there becomes a chore for you, and you no longer enjoy what you’re writing about then what does it matter? I really don’t want to become condescending or rude, but this website could easily become a hub for negative Starbucks comments, but you don’t let it, because you love this company just as much as we do – and while it may sometimes not be entirely worth it don’t forget the people you’ve brought together or the community you’ve created,
This website has your name above the URL, yes, you’re Starbucks Melody but you’re more than that to us partners. You’re the regular customer we all dream that we could meet.
Anyway, I’ve rambled on enough but I just wanted to say thank you, I know writing about our company is difficult and always keeping such a positive outlook on things must be just as hard as it is for us (if not harder!) to keep smiles on our faces but we really appreciate it, we love what you do.
@StarbucksDave – I definitely appreciate your honesty. The book (or at least that parts that I got written) are really different than the blog, and I did kind of want to see what the reaction would be.
I can write short segments fairly easily and fairly quickly – which is how I’ve had a blog for so long. I guess I will keep it up so long as I keep thinking up things to write about! LOL.
And by the way, I LOVE reading your blog, and hope you will update it soon. Your blog has that great perspective of being a partner, and I don’t know of that many great partner blogs – it’s just great to have that view point.
The book idea is on hold at this time. The fact of the matter is that the great part of this entire process are the whole network of connections that are made – Starbucks is like a big family in many ways. It’s totally fun when I meet someone in person, and realize we’ve connected on twitter before or connection continues and is formed over the blog. For example, if I am buying Pike Place Special Reserve coffee at the Market, I always find myself thinking of Amy In Boston who likes that coffee!
Maybe I can get back to the idea of working on the book after the first of the year. I am hoping things will slow down a little. I have had to really reduce my participation in other online sites to keep up with this blog. I need to do better in keeping up with the Five Awesome Baristas too. 🙂
I ramble way too much! Anyways, posting the book excerpt is a good chance to see if my writing style translates from blog to book at all. Very good experiment. We will be back to regularly scheduled programming soon. 🙂
I love this! Maybe because I’m sort of part of the story. 🙂 I met Cliff that day in April! What a great guy! It’s heartbreaking to me that I was unable to see him during his most recent trip to Texas. I was told I would conduct a tasting for him and some other regional leaders, but his flight was rescheduled. 🙁
I would love to email you soon to catch up! I would right now, but it is so late, and I really should be going to sleep.
Great article, though!
Another good one, Melody. Sorry to hear that you are not going to finish your book, but you have a niche and you handle it well.
I appreciate the fact that there are execs out there who still haven’t forgotten the people and the experiences that made them who they are today. I always followed the rule of “never ask anyone to do anything that you won’t do yourself”. No one should be above picking up trash and no one should ever look down on those who do it for a living.
Sometimes it just feels good to get your hands dirty.
Starbucks Dave right on target re Melody and her blog. Thanks for your comment. Re meeting executives – The ones I have met and interacted with are on a smaller scale than SB but nonetheless feel passion for their cause. That passion can only translate to the customer or the person receiving the services if it is genuine.
no book?????? wait for a while.
Thanx again for another good story! (I’m very rushed, sorry)
Thanks for a wonderful post. It really warms my heart to see people who made it big that are not afraid to look into their roots. Cliff is definitely one of those. On the other hand, I hope you get to finish your book soon.
@Denise – Funny, but being able to write a blog doesn’t totally translate into being able to write a book. It’s at least on hold to Jan 2012. I need more story – maybe I’ll think up more.
Just as an aside, to anyone, I got a great email from a partner who suggested that I do another one of these kinds of pieces featuring a different Starbucks leader -she had a suggestion for an article about a specific person. It’s always a bit touchy writing about real people. Anybody who is listed in this link here is pretty a much a public figure:
http://news.starbucks.com/executive+biographies/?start_row=1
^ That list is essentially all ‘public figures’ and so the standard of writing articles about them is a little less strict. Of course, I’m trying super hard to not make mistakes, but I feel more comfortable featuring articles about a “public figure” than a Starbucks leader who is not named in that list. Not to say it wouldn’t happen, but that is generally my thinking.
Thanks for sharing the excerpt! It’s great to learn and read about the upper management from someone that’s not in upper Starbucks management as well and you I think it was well written and in a very positive light. He seems like a great person.
I agree with Dave’s comment, we love all your stories the good and the bad, because they come from a good place!
If the time is right to write a book you’ll know. And we’ll read it! And in the meantime, we’ll all anxiously await the next blog post.
Thanks for the insight you give to those of us far away from Seattle and community you’ve built here 🙂
It took me a while to get over here and read this, but I wanted to say how much I enjoyed it. Being from outside the US (even though I think we do report into Cliff) it’s interesting to hear about him. I’ve also enjoyed reading the posts you’ve made about Michelle Glass and Kris Engskov (Did you know that the character Charlie on West Wing was based on him? That blew my mind a few months ago when I learned it). We all get to know Howard through our training, and through notes and videos he sends out to us, but some of the others remain a mysery. It’s cool to hear about them! Thanks Melody!
Enjoyed reading the excerpt – sorry to hear about the book!
@cd – that was an interesting bit about Disney.
@Michelle – Hi there! I’ve read the Wikipedia entry on Kris. He is famous! I never really watched the West Wing, but yes Kris has an incredible background before Starbucks. Very glamorous even. Glad you like the Cliff Burrows stories.
I admire a man who takes the initiative to clean up messes instead of yelling instructions like a spoiled child to have someone else do it.
I have faith in you, Melody! Keep working on your book and it will come into fruition with time and effort. Don’t worry about the word count. Just focus on jotting the ideas down, then work on refining and tweaking the content.
(BTW, I’m starting a bi-weekly series of my trips around Europe, complete with pics. Even though I can’t see France for a while, I can certainly share the photos I have taken in the past!)
I have worked on and off with Cliff throughout my time at Starbucks – I can clearly remember the first time he came to visit my store as MD of the UK I shared a coffee tasting of Ethiopian and Kenyan coffee and home made orange ice cream – I was so nervous I was only 22, and had spent the day before with my team scrubbing and polishing my store. I remember my hands shaking as I poured the coffee – and stuttering through my my first few minutes of introductions.
He came in, sat down, put away his mobile phone and gave me his undivided attention, we talked about the coffee, we talked about the business, we talked about music – Cliff made sure he spoke to every barista in my tiny little store – it was brilliant he inspired us all and put us at our ease. We met off on and on then at different Starbucks events until I moved to work as a tasting room assistant in the coffee department in the Amsterdam Roasting plant – I was amazed when I got to my new job to find a hand written card on my new coffee strewn desk from Cliff wishing me well in my new job – that’s the kind of guy Cliff is – he is – a servant leader through and through.
A couple of years later Cliff moved to Amsterdam to head up the EMEA he tasked me with helping the leadership team to become Coffee Masters just like everyone else in the office and roasting plant – his commitment to the coffee and the farmers is truly inspiring – every week with out fail we would ensure he made space for coffee education on the busy leadership team meeting schedule he even came down to the tasting room and learnt how to roast and blend his own coffee – it was a really special moment when I presented him with his Coffee Master Black Apron and bag of Cliff’s Blend. Cliff is a really humbling person to work for, I feel so very lucky I have got to work with him – I would have the skills I have now without the opportunities he gave me.
Top tip for anyone who has got Cliff visiting your store – polish your fire extinguishers – he always checks them…..
Melody I think you should write a book I would love to read it – your style of writing makes me feel like we are sitting together sharing a pot of coffee and you are telling me a story… that is a rare skill!!!
@Liz – Thank you for your comments. That is a fabulous Cliff Burrows story. Maybe Starbucks should sell a “Cliff’s Blend.” 😉 This blog post really is what >my< personal interactions with Cliff have been (and I've seen him a couple of times at the wine/beer store preview parties) and it's nice to know others think the same as I do. I got one email that really put a pin in my bubble, and was fairly negative about Cliff, but I still think he's fundamentally a great servant leader. That's the perfect phrase for it – "servant leadership."
Actually, when I was at the 5th July clean up, after I walked away from talking to Cliff and Kris, I ran off to a grassy area where there were some partners I knew, and the store manager whom I went to the event with. One of the partners there (oh I wish I could remember her name!! I am drawing a blank! I am TERRIBLE with names) having just seen me come from my very short interaction with Cliff, told me this story that she'd been working at the 1st and Walker Starbucks, and that she recalled that the first coupe of times she was making his drink, or at the register with him, she was terribly nervous, and then she realized he was a nice guy, and didn't have to be nervous at all. I had just about forgotten that until you reminded me.
Right now I am in a stressful phase of work, and I am hoping it will slow down next year. Work is always my first priority. Maybe the book will come in 2012. Thanks for the props on my writing. I have a friend who helps me with grammar mistakes, and I always get great emails about every single missing comma, or redundancy, or small grammar mistake, after every blog article. It's amazing. Her English skills are perfect. She'd make a great editor. I think the blog is better because of the help I get from friends.
Thanks!
Have you ever met Rossann Williams she works with Cliff as a SVP of Operations?
You would really get on well with her, she used to be my boss in Amsterdam – and has the most brilliant sense of humour. If you ever see her in store, make a bee line for her
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@Liz – No, I don’t know Rossann Williams but I will keep my ears and eyes open for her. The truth is, you know there are like 3000 + folks at the SSC and I probably have like 10 contacts within that building. Cliff, Kris E., and Howard are all big noticeable in-the-news public figures, and so they’re easy to spot, and they know me … barely. It’s not like I can call upon them for favors, and well I guess I wouldn’t use the word ‘contacts’ for them because it would imply more of a relationship than there is. I am rambling again. In any case, I’m always excited to meet new partners (and passionate customers) everywhere, There are really so few that I know, and a very tiny percentage of partners who read this blog when you consider that there are like 200k of you! 🙂 (Probably a very tiny percentage generally speaking are blog readers) When I tried the fresh Evolution juices with an SSC partner, I joked that it sounds like Jeff Hansberry has the best job in the world. His kitchen, and fridge, and freezer must be full of bottled Frappuccinos, Starbucks ice cream, Via, and now juices too – My god, he has the best job … ice cream, via, juice, … fun things to talk about and try. I’ve never met him but his job sounds super cool. http://news.starbucks.com/executive+biographies/jeff+hansberry.htm –What a ramble of mine. Sorry!
Melody et al –
It has been almost a year since I left the company to pursue more education and another opportunity in SE Michigan, and I still look to the ethos of the Starbucks leadership for inspiration. The heritage of flattened control structures at the company is a lesson that many other firms would do well to learn. From a more personal perspective, it gives a group with immense responsibility the opportunity to demonstrate their capacity for conscience…I took the trust bond at the company for granted and only now realize how truly wide-ranging it was.
Cliff is scheduled to come by my store this Wednesday in Vancouver. Does anyone know his favorite drink? He seems like a genuinely good guy and if there’s any way I can help make his day spectacular, I will do that…
Hi Matt loves Coffee,
If I remember rightly Cliff loves African coffees – he is a fan of Rwanda.
He likes a good food pairing to – home made or from a Starbucks – the main thing he will want to know about is you. So if you do a coffee tasting for him, make it one that will make him remember you and your passion for coffee and customers :>)
on vacation on my kindle, sorry sloppy. I think I remember hearing that cliff drinks a doppio con panna now and then, though I could be way off.