I almost feel like I should apologize for this blog post right off the bat because it probably won’t be interesting to many readers. Nonetheless, one day this past week I was in one of my regular Starbucks, and the bar barista exclaimed to me how much he liked using the new milk steaming pitchers. Of course, I was like, “huh” because I hadn’t realized that Starbucks had sent all their stores new milk steaming pitchers.
I know this partner well, and I’ll call him “John.” John said that the pitchers were largely a product of the testing of the Ristretto Bianco beverage in Portland. These smaller pitchers were implemented and first launched in the testing of that beverage. By way of background, I know that John moved from a Starbucks in Portland to this downtown Seattle location, and we’ve had previous conversations about the Ristretto Bianco. John had, at one time, been at a store with that test beverage, though I didn’t know him back then. It was interesting to me that one year after that test, something did come out of it that did launch nationally. However, there’s a little more to the story. Apparently, long after the Ristretto Bianco test was discontinued, a number of stores still continued using these smaller pitchers for steaming milk. You wouldn’t think that steaming pitchers would require such rigorous testing, but I guess it makes sense that before you make/ship thousands and thousands of pitchers, you test it to make sure it is perfect.
John told me (and now this is totally like a third-hand story!) that the pitchers went through handle modifications before the final design was chosen for the stores. So I heard, a friend of his who had also been part of the test run for the pitchers, had given Starbucks the feedback that the handles were too small. In other words, in an earlier version of the pitchers, if a barista had a very large hand, the space to grab the pitcher was too small and there was a burn risk to the top of the hand. (Not the palm of the hands, but the outside of the hand.) In the end, Starbucks made some modifications to the handle design, and now here you have it: new milk steaming pitchers.
My understanding is that sometime within the past week or so, all Starbucks switched to these new (and smaller) pitchers. One great advantage of the new pitchers is the ability to steam exactly the amount of milk that you need – even if someone orders a “short” (8 ounce) beverage.
Partners, how do you like your new pitchers? 🙂
I realize that this blog post may get close to zero comments because probably few are interested in pitchers, but I was fascinated to see what came out of the Ristretto Bianco testing.
(Edit: When I wrote this blog article I was under the assumption that all Starbucks had already received these pitchers. In looking at the comments, I realize now that some Starbucks are still waiting to receive these. Hopefully it will be soon! :))
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Oooohhh,
Well this is exciting to me, but I agree this is probably a small market post. It might have launched in Seattle but it hasn’t launched in my city. I want one, I wonder if the new shaped pitchers could aid in latte art. I have watched videos and had lessons from friends but the big mouth opening on the pitchers we use makes it tough to do any. I also love that they are smaller so that people can’t steam multiple drinks together. Or to steam a short! Can any Seattle people tell us about the benefits or their thoughts?
I haven’t heard anything about this yet, but I’m so excited! One of my only complaints about the current (now old?) pitchers is that steaming milk for a Short beverage was always impractical. This makes drinks that have little milk in them to begin with like Chai Lattes, Tea Lattes, and Mistos even easier.
Can’t wait for these.
They look kind of cool! A funky looking pitcher to match our funky looking Mastrenas 🙂
Because I always think the machines have little UFO bean silos at the top of them.
Sticking with it. Thanks Mel!
This was an Action item this week! my ASM was telling me we’re due to get them this week. Super excited! I’ve been told the spout is much smaller so hopeful that means latte art!
I was at 4th & Morrison (new Reserve store in Portland) a few weeks back and noticed the new pitchers. I’m glad to know the full story!
I wish they thought to make the pour spouts more narrow so that partners who wanted to do latte art, could go ahead and do it. I’m also interested to know if partners find it tedious to make great microfoam because the bottom of the pitcher is smaller, which theoretically should make it harder to get a good rotation going, especially with the wide Mastrena steam wands. My SM threw my latte art pitcher away because she was afraid of Ecosure violations. But I think these new pitchers are a step in the right direction.
this post amuses me, and here’s why:
over 6 years or so of being a barista, you learn to tell exactly how much milk to pour, by sight and weight, and you can tell the temp of the milk by the feel of the pitcher (without burning yourself) and the sounds being made by the milk as you steam it.
this ‘cheat’ pitcher just makes me laugh 🙂
I first became aware of the new pitchers early this week (2/6/12) when I noticed a box labeled something like “old steaming pitchers for recycling”. So I asked and got the short (pun intended 😉 ) story from one of the more experienced and dedicated Baristas. There was also something in the story about spoons being banned from the steaming pitchers.
All of the Partners on duty chimed in that they all really liked the pitchers. Main points are that the formed in measures are easier to see and that the shape of the pitcher also helps. The pour spout, big handle, and 8 oz. level rounded out the positive comments. So far no one expressed any complaints.
Starbucks just might have engineered a better steaming pitcher.
Now if they could stay focused on coffee…
We got these new Pitchers too in Germany. They are nice, easier to clean, but I have to get used
to it. We also were introduced to a new way of steaming milk last week.
Looks to me as though they are exactly the wrong shape for texturising milk well – I would expect a wide bottom tapering finer to the top.
I haven’t used them though, so I can’t say for sure.
I work at a high volume store here in Boise. This is the first I’ve heard about the new pitchers and the Ristretto Bianco. It sounds fun. I agree with Elly though. We know how to steam milk perfectly using the feel, sound and weight of our pitchers. If these are insulated, however, that would be a definite plus. I’m also glad to hear about espresso drinks instead of more frappacino concoctions. We’ve drifted so far away from the essence of coffee. Thankyou for this post. Hopefully our store will soon be serving this.
We have the new pitchers here in UK and Ireland stores and I can honestly say hand on heart that they make beautiful micro foam milk every single time, combined with the passion and artistry of each partner, every latte and cappuccino tastes and looks amazing, each and every time.
I will post you an image or 2 once I’m on shift tomorrow.
Fantastic move for us and love the new pitchers 🙂
My area (suburb of Portland) received our pitchers early January with a post-training launch date of January 16th. The reception by the baristas has been good, and from my point of view, the dairy variance has been diminished by quite a bit. This not only makes MUCH better foam and drinks in general, but is a great cost-cutting measure I’m happy to get behind.
Huh. We haven’t received them yet either – in fact, this is the first I’ve heard of them! 🙂 They look interesting… although I share the previous sentiment about wishing that the pour spouts were narrower. Still, looking forward to trying them out!
I’ve been waiting for these to leave the test markets and hit the mainstream for a while. Our local indies use similar pitcher designs, and their foam is consistently superiour to the best we can produce. Although I know there are going to be some issues (2 at least I can see right off…well, make that 3), I’m gonna be positive and hope it’s a good change!
I wouldn’t have thought that the structure of a milk pitcher could make such a difference!
(LatteRose – not a barista)
I look forward to this! I have heard they are amazing from a partner that was in the test market who used to work with me. I feel like we are focusing on coffee, but need to focus on the core three Italian espresso beverages which require high quality milk/foam.
We received those pitchers at our store in Poland last December and at least in Europe they will replace old ones in a couple of weeks. I believe this is a milestone in milk steaming. It’s much easier to get perfect foam and as a result, perfect beverage. But let’s face it! Trained barista was able to steam milk perfectly in old pitchers too. 😉
These new pitchers look like a disaster from the spill/tipping point of view. Do you know how frequently we literally slide our pitchers on our counters. These look like they would tip every other time!
Where was the action item about this? Does it have anything to do with POD training? Is this what this is?
I am amazed at the world-wide response. I didn’t realize the international markets have them too already.
I hate to sound harsh, – I really don’t mean to – but I think that milk/food spills are this real risk in the food service industry always because the things you do to make a great product come with the need for some amount of care and caution. In any event, the weight of the milk should help stability, and theoretically, it seems like most of the time there won’t be any milk in the pitcher at all,
This would be great for DadCooks to weigh in – He thinks like an engineer!
Perhaps Starbucks could market the old milk steamers at its stores to its customers instead of recycling them.
hmmmmm. was not at my regular plce yesterday and a couple other days last week (other Sbux…:( so I wasn’t talking at the bar as much as I would normally be. Now I have to speed up my trip to my ‘regular’ store today and see if they have these yet.
I do think the shape, material…everything ..is a factor in steaming milk (esp. for foam)…just as in baking. alot of little factors that can make a difference in the end product.
@Melody — a challenge, now I’ll have to do my homework 😉
Until I can get my hands on a pitcher on Monday, here is my preliminary visual observation:
Shape, material, weight, bottom shape, and bottom and side thickness are all important as well as ratios of height/bottom diameter/top diameter. Although the perfect steaming pitcher in theory and practice could be two different things.
The human element cannot be discounted. An experienced Barista who has the talents of an artist is using their senses of sight, sound, and touch to produce the perfect steam. They could do it in an old tin cup, but why not try to create a tool that allows all the physical and physiological elements to aid in the creation of the end product for even the novice.
Do I detect some compromises in the design? Sure I do but from the reaction of a limited sample of Barista experience/competence levels I am going to go out on a limb and state that Starbucks seems to have a good design here. Time and experience will be the final measure.
Confused as always brings up the tipping potential, which is not to be discounted. However, if my observations are correct, the pitchers are either empty or being used so there should be no cases of hot milk being in a sliding pitcher. When empty the pitchers appear to have a base that will slide easily with enough weight to minimize the tipping hazard.
Okay, time to wake up everybody 😉 . Today’s dissertation by DadCooks/theEngineer is complete. Tomorrow’s lesson, “hands on”.
Since I get the iced green tea, I really never look closely at the partners making the drinks. Have been chatting with friends alot at my local SB and now have to look for these pitchers. Certainly, if they are in use the partners do not seem excited about them nor have I heard any customers mention them.
I’m a barista in Vegas, and we haven’t gotten them yet. Our delivery people tend to give us things a month early, or a month late, if we get our order at all. I can’t wait to see the new pitchers though. Keep in mind that test stores and high-volume stores get products first and it may take months for other stores to get them.
@DadC….thanx for your opinions and observations about this…appreciated as always. I agree whole-heartedly about the human factor…… in anything. Even when following a recipe or exact directions in a lab…. our human instincts (?) are a huge factor, imho.
Really excited for these (no they are not small market. They came out first in Seattle, but they are going everywhere!)
@elly, I know that many older baristas can do this. The fact is though that many still “batch steam” which makes an inferior latte. Which is why I’m pumped for them. I still see others do this and it bugs me. Because as much as I disliked repeatable routine when it came out, the fact is it leads to a better latte. Quality is important.
We’ve been using the new pitchers for a little less than a month here (greater Seattle area) and so far I have four observations..
1. They produce a fantastic amount of good quality foam with minimal effort, but if the barista isn’t careful they will end up not having enough milk to finish a beverage.
2. They don’t really tip over (they are pretty heavy for their size) unless you are being very careless and/or walk away from the bar… which shouldn’t be happening anyway.
3. The grooves which designate milk amounts are great in that they are fairly accurate, but terrible in that they ‘collect’ milk on the outside of the pitcher and you have to really scrub to get it out.
4. The pour spout not ideal for easy latte art, which is sad because I like to practice when we are slow.
When deciding whether or not to launch a new item like this, P&L weighs most heavily and the ability to reduce our milk waste by such a high margin is a significant long term savings for each store and the company as a whole.
Thanks for all the info.
It’s reassuring to learn the pitchers don’t tip over to the extent I had thought.
So, another quickie:
If someone needs a single shot venti no foam WHATSOEVER latte, can I easily steam the correct amount and make the latte in a reasonable amount of time? (in my estimation, 3 out of 10 hot bar drinks (at least) at my store are ordered ”no foam”?
Do they come around and take away your spoons? Can I keep a spoon for especially stubborn no foam drinks? I don’t free pour anything but cappuccinos.
@Confused less/ Confused as always – You know the expression “the more you know, the less you know” – it definitely applies to me! Well, likely applies to many. Anyway, I had a totally interesting conversation w/ a partner who liked the new pitchers but said her only complaint was that it’s difficult to make a large “bone dry” cappuccino but I’m not totally sure why!
@purple1 Most partners here do seem excited about them when asked, but I don’t think it is a typical conversation point.
@Melody milk doubles when you are making that kind of foam. It may be harder to get enough foam in that sized pitcher. Makes sense to me, but hard to explain what I mean. @confusedless as far as I know we will still have the spoons around, they are just not to be left in the pitchers. Like all the other times Starbucks, in the past, decided no spoons. They just are not left in the pitcher itself.
@Melody seeing as the pitchers are tapered, to get the correct amount of milk IN the pitcher and begin the process might be difficult. I still feel like I’m not being as clear as I understand it in my mind. Sorry!
I read the barista needs to know job aid to get a better idea. The spoons need to be stored somewhere and can’t be steamed with the milk. Sure miss the dipper well now!
Not sure when we get our pitchers. We get new machines tomorrow night just in time for Valentine’s Day. (:
We kept four of the old pitchers and labeled two of them ‘Dairy Spoons’ and two of them ‘Soy Spoons’ so we have one of each in the cafe and at the drive thru. Soy spoons are labeled as such and we keep one soy spoon and about four dairy spoons at each bar. The newfangled dipper well/spoon rinser thingy actually gets used frequently now as we rinse each spoon and put it away immediately after we use it.
Bone Dry Cappuccinos…. not impossible with the new pitchers, but they do take some finesse, for a venti I end up using slightly less than a tall’s amount of milk and aerate until 115 degrees or so, works perfectly 9/10 times.
Venti to the top no foam whatever… Fill the milk to the MAX line instead of the venti line and aerate only a couple seconds, you will get some foam – use your spoon and you should have enough milk to fill up the cup and leave the foam in the pitcher.
Best Practice – When you get the new pitchers, make a latte, a cappuccino, and a chai (hint: half the milk) until you are convinced that your pickiest customer would be highly satisfied with the finished product. Taste everything! By the time you succeed, you’ll have acclimated to the new pitchers and you’ll be able to actively sample or surprise and delight a local business. We took about 40 drinks to the stores in our strip mall, letting them know that we were playing with new pitchers, and I’ve seen many of those people come in and order drinks over the last few weeks. 🙂
well, they’re not around here yet and the few baristas I asked yesterday knew nothing of these. One of the baristas said she gets most of her ‘new’ info from me! I’m sure it’s not “most”, but probably alot.
re: above comments about the sz and foam: as a lover of foam..huge foam….I’m hoping not to be disappointed once they do get these new pitchers.
I feel like the huge amount of time and focus has been on the whole “blonde” bit lately. No (very very little…I think less than ever that I’ve seen) emphasis on Valentines day at all…I think that’s a BIG MISS for a coffee shop. Even the Valentine buy a mocha etc. cards are carelessly just laying around…. I don’t think that’s been such a big “hit”. (btw)
Denise R I so agree with you that valentines day around here at my local SB is virtually nonexistent. No cupcakes, no push to promote any related to the holiday just nothing. As far as getting info from partners- I too find that I often am more up to date on what is happening at SB (thank you Melody!) than the partners. They often look at me in shock that I know something they do not know.
These pitchers honestly remind me of the various coffee shops I saw around Europe, especially the ones in Italy.
There was even a café in Dijon that provided mini-pitchers to every drink they served!
We had a 2 hour training session on the new pitchers when they were introduced here.
The first thing we did was make 6 drinks using our old methods (a tall iced latte, grande latte, a grande americano, a tall caramel macchiato and a tall latte, I think). The drinks were set up in a queue and most of the baristas when making the drinks ended up handing them out in the wrong order and making them incorrectly.
Then we learnt the whole new steaming method and the beverage routine and made the drinks again. A lot of us ended up being quicker using the new method than the old one. (We never introduced the beverage routine that the US did last year)
There’s less spillage as we’re focused on just two drinks at a time, and things are a bit calmer as well. Usually on a Match Day (we’re right by the stadium where the international rugby is played) the bar area is an absolute disaster, but despite the craziness of the day and the queues out the door, things went a lot smoother than usual. I heard quite a few customers comment on the speediness of their drinks, as for a good bit of the day drinks were done at about the same time as payment was taken at the tills.
@confused less- I’ve found that for a wet latte, if you fill the jug to the next highest line and aerate properly (2 secs) you don’t even need the spoon to keep the foam back. (but we are allowed to use the spoon)
For a wet cappucino, aerating for 4 secs (same as the caramel macchiato) seems to be about right.
@Diele prepare to fall in love! We got ours in October. They still feel so new and make me so happy 😉
@magicKat you rock! thanks 🙂
@Denise that’s sad :(. We had a ball giving them out.
@purple no there are no cupcakes this year. They raspberry truffle cake pop took it’s place. I love it but agree there should be cup cakes.
We ordered cranberry bliss bars that we intend to use red ribbon and jazz up as a Valentine’s treatl The raspberry truffle cake pops and caffe mochas were the Valentine’s Day offerings. I was hoping for more, but I know we are getting exciting things next month with the release of Tribute. (:
I believe cupcakes are coming next month along with the new goodies. Can’t wait for tribute 🙂 Been pumped for a while!
Interesting if cupcakes are indeed arriving next month. When I have asked about them in general, I was told SB was no longer having them. I sure hope if this is true that they are better than the previous ones.
They will be like they were last year. High fructose corn syrup has been removed and that’s what made them so good in the past.
5 years doing this job and this is the fifth change in pitchers. Sigh.
Diele – you can still get Cranberry Bliss Bars? I am jealous!
There was an action item about the pitchers on the portal for us today, we are supposed to have them in time for the Spring launch.
The cafes here are due (the sm told me) to recv the new pitchers in April….and none of the baristas I have talked with are aware. But, right now our store is sooo messed up with the very very badly done( actually nor done- remodel since there’s now a lengthy HAULT , especially parts of the electric) because they did not get the village permits. ..which I still find totally amazing. This is not like someone’s backyard deck…..
and they can’t seem to give the Veranda away. Those pckgs are on the counter to take everyday… I think I remember being told apparently enough people are buying it brewed. whatever enough is.
and, we too still have cranberry bliss bars everyday. But, as I said……not much of anything Valentine’s. (same everywhere I’ve been..the 2 mugs, and the red w/hearts sleeve) I think the mocha cards were a nice gesture but I just don’t think (apparently) enough people want a mocha plus another mocha (or hot choc) . No cupcakes, no sugar cookies……I think we lost out on the pastry section for all the lunch food, breakfast sandw., snack food etc. 🙁
@PBE – I was recently in 4th & Morrison – That is a fabulous store!
@Denise – Any improvements coming to 2470’s store design? I hope next year they do a little more for Valentine’s Day. This year wasn’t much. I do want the Vanilla Cupcakes back too, but I kinda want the old version with HFCS! Yeah, I didn’t use the Mocha cards either. Problem is that when I go to Starbucks with co-workers or friends, we almost never want such similar drinks.
Denise, in my twitter feed, @AmazonV commented that she got a free cake pop coupon (MyStarbucksRewards offer). I’d love to know how they pick those to get the freebies coupons. It doesn’t really matter, but I haven’t gotten one in ages.
These new pitchers we have here are, for the most part, practical because they help with waste control. However, we have a regular at our store who usually orders a venti bone dry cappuccino, and let me tell you, steaming a venti bone dry cappuccino in these pitchers is very difficult. It is all because the way the pitchers are designed makes the extra foam spill over. We get foam all over the place. It has occurred with extra hot venti drinks like extra hot cappuccinos. It is a good idea for us to save a bigger pitcher for such occasions, thank you for the suggestion Melody! But, I prefer the old ones nonetheless.
It wasn’t such a small market test. Our entire region tested them (I’m in the Ohio River Vallley region) and now that modifications have been done they are rolling out company wide next month. To any baristas who haven’t used them…they are fantastic. Much better foam quality. Helps on milk waste. Yes, latte art is much easier than with our previous large mouthed pitchers. For non-partners, it also keeps baristas who like to steam two beverages together from doing so. We aren’t supposed to but sadly I have seen many do it and it really decreases beverage quality.