Up For Discussion: Free Refills, a Green Level benefit of MyStarbucksRewards
I’ve decided to write a few articles about the MyStarbucksRewards program. And, for the most part, I will be focusing on the Green level of benefits. It only takes five purchases with your registered card to be elevated to the Green level.
As a reminder, any registered Starbucks card can earn you rewards. In the U.S., it is estimated that about 25% of all transactions are with a registered card, and that there are more than four million active card holders. That’s a lot of Starbucks cards in use! Understanding these rewards is more important now than ever before.
The articles will be published on upcoming Fridays, as follows:
- A close up look: My Starbucks Rewards at the Green Level – Free Syrups and Milk Changes (July 27, 2012)
- A close up look: My Starbucks Rewards at the Green Level – Free Tall Beverage with Whole Bean Purchase (August 3, 2012)
- A close up look: My Starbucks Rewards at the Green Level – Free Refills (August 10, 2012)
- A close up look: My Starbucks Rewards: Areas of confusion at the Gold Level (August 17, 2012)
I am asking that the conversations in these threads stay on topic. I realize there is a lot to say when it comes to MyStarbucksRewards, so I’m hoping the “Free Tall Beverage” conversations won’t spill into the “Free Refills” thread, for example.
Caveat: This series of articles represents Melody’s understanding of the rewards, and may materially differ from what is stated on the Starbucks website. These articles pertain only to the U.S. market. I’m writing a series of articles, and I hope that I closely match the intent of what the rewards program represents.
As many people know, the very first generation of my Starbucks rewards was announced in March 2008, at that year’s annual shareholders’ meeting. In many ways, the basic rewards haven’t changed much since then. Back in 2008, there was only one level of awards, and those awards were essentially all the current “Green” level rewards.
FREE REFILLS:
The first point of clarification is that this benefit does NOT require the customer to have reached the “Gold” level of benefits. I have frequently heard baristas tell customers that you get a free brewed coffee refill “with a Gold Card.” That implies that you wouldn’t get one with your ordinary card at the Green level of benefits. This is a Green level perk. And please remember, there is never any requirement that a customer switch to the shiny gold card. All the benefits are associated with the Starbucks.com/card profile, not the actual physical card.
On the topic of “Free Refills” the easiest thing to do is simply start with what is NOT covered. In no particular order, here are some situations where there is NO free refill benefit.
Not covered:
1. If you’re using a drive-through, there is no free refill benefit. At least this part of this benefit is clear and unambiguous.
2. If you want to get a refill price on an espresso beverage, that is not a benefit. In other words, if you drink a tall latte, and then you want a second tall latte (and you’ve stayed inside the store), there is no refill price for a latte. The only items that are ever the refill price are brewed coffee (whatever happens to be brewing at the moment), iced coffee, and iced tea (meaning black, green, or passion tea.)
3. If you leave the store, there is no longer a free refill benefit. (However, we’ll see that there is some ambiguity with that.)
4. Essentially, if you are a “walk in” customer, there is no free refill. You cannot walk in and get a “refill” priced brewed coffee, iced coffee, or iced tea. You have to have already stayed in the store drinking your first beverage.
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Just as an aside, the “Free Refill” benefit might be my least favorite perk. This not because I don’t use it – I certainly have – but from what I can see, it is the perk that causes the most confusion. It seems to operate almost the opposite as what Starbucks really intended.
Here’s what the Starbucks website says. For the record, I find this to be one of the most confusingly written things on the entire Starbucks.com site:
Free refills while you’re here
Go ahead, stay awhile. Brewed or iced coffee or tea refills are on us while you’re in the store.
See what qualifies.
Use your registered Starbucks Card to pay for a brewed or iced coffee or tea and then bring that same card back to the register for a refill during the same visit. (This isn’t valid on Caffè Mistos, Starbucks Reserve™ or Clover® Brewed coffees – or the coffee you grab at the Drive Thru window.) Offer is subject to change and is valid at participating stores.
If you notice, the website singles out “Caffe Mistos,” “Starbucks Reserves” and “Clover brewed coffees.” It almost makes absolutely no sense that those are singled out, at least in the manner that they are singled out above. I think that this is what that above paragraph is trying to say:
Free Refills While You’re Here:
Go ahead. Stay for a while. Brewed or iced coffee, or tea refills are on us when you’re staying in our stores. (See what qualifies.)
Use your Starbucks card at the green level, and pay for your refill while visiting in the store. The beverages available for a refill price are brewed coffee, iced coffee, and tea, hot or iced. No other beverages are available at a refill benefit price. (This benefit also does not include coffee brewed with a Clover brewer, or any coffee made with Reserve coffee beans. Also, coffee prepared as a Caffe Misto is not available at the refill price. We’re sorry – we know that those are coffee beverages too, but there is no refill price for those unique hand-crafted coffee beverages. It’s a lovely benefit, and has have a few limits on it.) Offer is subject to change, and is valid at participating Starbucks stores.
I want to mention some common myths about the free refills. I’ve seen both partners and customers get tripped up on these common pitfalls:
Common myths and pitfalls:
I bought a tall Pike Place Roast at the store on the corner of Fourth and Union. Later, I walked across the street to the Puget Plaza Starbucks. They are only literally just across the street from each other. Can I get a tall Pike Place Roast at the refill price at the Puget Plaza Starbucks?
No, no, no. You left the store. It is NOT a refill. You must pay full price for your tall Pike Place Roast at the Puget Plaza Starbucks. It doesn’t matter that they are literally across the street from each other. You left the store. However, please ask the barista to give you a personal cup discount. You get ten cents off your beverage for having brought in your own cup. (Even though local health code will require that the Starbucks give you a new paper cup.)
I thought that if I bought one brewed coffee in the morning, I could get refills all day long, even if I came back later after work?
No, no, no. If you leave the store, there is no longer a refill benefit. If you stay inside the store, there is a refill benefit.
I work inside a tall office building. Can I get a free refill so long as I have not left the building?
No, no, no. There are definitely Starbucks in the lobby level of tall office towers. In those circumstances, it’s often true that customers may only travel a short distance between their favorite Starbucks and their office. It is still not a free refill, or refill priced. If you leave the store, there is no longer a refill benefit.
Is there a time limit on how long I can stay inside Starbucks drinking free refills?
As a customer, I have never seen any customer-facing materials that express a time limit on free refills. I have a distinct memory of Howard Schultz in 2008 (when announcing the then-new card benefits) saying enthusiastically, “Stay as long as you like…” To this day, I think that is the intent of the program. I have seen partners state that there is a two hour benefit. Once upon a time, there was a free wifi benefit with a registered card that had a 2-hour limitation. That limitation related to the free wifi benefit of 2008 – 2009, before it became free wifi everywhere, all day.
Can I get a free refill if I went outside and had my beverage on the store’s patio?
I don’t know the exact answer to this. I’ve actually heard baristas say both yes and no to this. It would seem to me that since you’re still on the store’s property, you should be able to get a free refill. This appears to be another area of ambiguity.
My favorite Starbucks is tiny kiosk with no seating, like the Century Square Starbucks. Can I get a free refill?
This is another area of ambiguity. Since there is no actual way to stay “in” a kiosk store, it seems like there would be no way to get any free refills.
I bought a tall Pike Place Roast, and I have been sitting inside the store reading the paper. Can I get a pour over of the dark roast pick of the day as a free refill?
This would be yet another area of ambiguity. I don’t see that the website really addresses this situation. I believe that the answer is “no.” The barista should then charge the customer for a tall dark roast. The reason that I say this is because this benefit is not really intended to include any beverages that are handcrafted or time consuming. Because of the extra labor involved of the pour over, I don’t think that was intended as a “refill” benefit.
I went to Starbucks and bought a tall mocha, and I did stay in the store. Can I get a tall Pike Place Roast as a refill now?
I think the answer to this is yes. I don’t think the website really addresses this situation. Consistently, moderators at MyStarbucksIdea.com will say “yes” this is a benefit. It makes little sense to tell a customer, “I’m sorry, you should have bought a cheaper drink if you wanted free refills.” And in theory, if the benefit is strictly limited to in-store customers, it’s not an expensive benefit to offer.
I’ve been told by partners that the Beverage Resource Manual describes the free refill benefit as a benefit, “regardless of original drink purchased.” I’ve never actually seen that in writing, but if you’re a partner, check the BRM to see if this is mentioned in it.
I went to Starbucks and bought a tall mocha, and I did stay in the store. Can I get a tall iced black tea refill now?
I think the answer to this is yes.
If the customer is switching from a hot drink to a cold drink refill (or vice versa), I’ve known many partners who will bristle at that. I really can see the reluctance to give the customer the benefit of switching from a hot to cold drink as this will always mean a new cup. I think I might bristle at this too if I were a barista. Technically though, I think you can.
This is a really confusing benefit with lots of areas of ambiguity. What did Starbucks really intend when they thunk up this benefit?
The rationale behind the free refill benefit is as follows, or at least this represents my best guess:
- People who linger inside a store might spend more money on additional pastries or food. Since the cost of a cup of Pike Place Roast is small, it might be worth it to encourage people to stay, and hopefully sell additional product as well. Iced tea is really mostly water, and is also cheap to produce.
- An empty store is never welcoming. It’s a good idea to encourage a few people to linger.
- We know that 80% of customers take their beverages “to go.” If partners enforce this right, it won’t cost the company much because it will apply to only a small customer base.
- Free refills help develop goodwill and a third place environment.
- The overwhelming majority of customers are not going to stay long enough to have more than one or two refills. The overwhelming majority of customers are “to go,” or stay briefly.
- Seating limitations will help control how much this benefit gets used. Since it’s only for in-store customers, it can really only be used by a small percentage of customers.
- The daily brewed coffee, iced tea, hot tea, and iced coffee are very high margin beverages.
As you can see, how the benefit was intended, and how it is now applied in the stores are almost in complete conflict with each other. Baristas routinely say “yes” to customers who should not get a refill, and sometimes say “no” to customers who SHOULD get a free refill
Now it’s your chance to weigh in on this perk. What are your thoughts on this? Basically, any card benefit that requires well over 2000 words to explain is too confusing.
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Melody quite a comprehensive blog piece on free refills. Thanks. As someone that pushed for free tea refills when they first offered free refills for coffee, I like this reward. I never understood why it took so long for SB to institute the free refills for tea and I had many comments on MSI. I still see confusion re getting free refills as you say depending on the store and the partner. Your breakdown on questions is just terrific. Although I would go to SB without the free refills rewards option, I really appreciate having it.
Thanks for this post, Melody! I agree it can be a confusing benefit, but it’s one of my favorites. This summer especially I spent many a Saturday afternoon working at the University Village Starbucks, and being able to get free iced tea refills was great (though the partners did seem a little judge-y when I came back for refill #3…). And, you’re right, I did end up buying some of the fresh baked pastries that the store offers as I was there.
I hope Starbucks will clarify some of the questions you’ve raised above, particularly about if you get a refill when ordering a more expensive beverage. Certainly, if this were the case, I can think of many situations where I’d order a latte and then want a tall brewed coffee if I’m working at a Starbucks.
This is my least favorite benefit.
My problem with it is simple, people take advantage of it. i.e. coming into the store, not having bought anything that day even, with a skanky old cup and asking for a refill. In that moment I have to choose if I want to argue with a regular or bite my tongue with someone that I know is taking advantage.
If people stay in the store I have no qualms with it, in fact generally these are people that are around a lot that we have had a chance to build a relationship with. I have one guy who sets up a mobile office and stays for my entire shift. He gets coffee refills all day but he does also buy snacks, lunch and pastries. He also invites people to meet him and then buys them drinks. He is a valuable customer, and I would be mad if anyone made him feel less than for using a service we offer.
Becca as a regular at my local store, I see both sides of your comments. I have seen customers come in asking for free refills when they should not get it and also see the other side like the last customer you mentioned. I also sometimes get annoyed when I do see people that should know the refill policy (customers) take advantage of it. I also get annoyed when I see customers take up more than one table and only order a drink and stay in the store for quite some time. But, again, I see the value of free refills for the customer. We were at nonstarbucks coffee house where they asked $2 for a coffee refill. We certainly appreciated SB when we heard how much a refill was at that coffee house!
@Travis – By the way, did you try the fresh in-store baked items at University Village? I’ve been meaning to write a follow up article on that.
There have been many times I’ve asked for an iced coffee refill after having an iced chai or other iced drink. In downtown Seattle, no partner has ever even flinched at that.
Though as to Becca’s point, I have moments where I wonder if a perk that takes 2000 words to even start to explain is worth it. I like being able to get free refills, and I do firmly believe that there are benefits to Starbucks to have such a perk, I just think this is perhaps THE most ambiguous area of the rewards … and is it worth that frustration?
I’m going to print this and post it in the backroom of my store if you don’t mind, Melody. We’ve had a lot of pushback from baristas in our district on what the refill policy is, it would be helpful to get everyone on the same page. I may email it to my DM as well and see if she has anything new to say. Our ‘just say yes’ policy has us giving out refills in the drive thru many times per day, but ultimately I think most of our guests would be happy to purchase a new beverage as long as we were consistent. We’ve been talking about enforcing the policy consistently district-wide for sometime now, but without proper signage and communication it’s been a challenge. Especially on the Eastside where people are so used to just getting what they ask for regardless of policy.
@Melody – Yes! They’re absolutely delicious. I’m an especially big fan of their fresh blueberry scones, and it makes me wish more Starbucks had in-store baked goods.
@MagicKat, I think it’s great that you’re sharing this with other store partners. I hope this ends up on quite a few back walls. 🙂
I really can see the reluctance to give the customer the benefit of switching from a hot to cold drink as this will always mean a new cup. I think I might bristle at this too if I were a barista. Technically though, I think you can.
But health regulations mean they have to hand out a new cup no matter, what, so this point is sort of irrelevant.
I use the refill program daily. My wife and I order our coffees, sit in the cafe and then get refills before we leave. It’s probably my favourite perk from the reward system, but I do agree that it’s the most misunderstood.
To be honest, I think this is the fault of store managers not educating their baristas. I know I pretty much had to go search out the information myself.
The biggest thing that partners seem to be unaware of is that iced tea is an option, and that I can switch from a hot brewed coffee to iced tea or iced coffee. Even if the refill option is more expensive than my original purchase.
There are definitely people who take advantage of this. To be honest, the just say yes policy isn’t meant for things like this. It’s not meant to help people take advantage of the system, but to allow baristas to problem solve and achieve excellent customer service. My most common response to something like this would always be to tell the customer ‘I’ll do it for you this time, but this is the Starbucks policy’. Generally the customer attempting to cheat the system was a returning visitor, and I’d advise the other partners that the customer had been advised of the policy.
First, nice coffee joke with “. . .so I’m hoping the “Free Tall Beverage” conversations won’t spill into the “Free Refills” thread, for example.”. Spill. Get it?
It might be easier to talk about the refill policy of $0.54
for everyone. The policy is not related to the green card perk.
Ah Ken you make great points! (Glad you like the pun.)
In order to get the refill free, it’s a green level (or higher) perk, but the same rules as above apply to the 54 cent perk. I didn’t do a very good job of clarifying that in the article – thanks for helping me out.
Great article! I would like for clarification on if it’s ok to order a hand crafted beverage and then a brewed coffee refill before leaving…if you had stayed in the store of course. I did it one time, and the barista did oblige but told me that was not the policy. I never did it again, because I was way too embarrassed to ever ask again!
Hayley, I’ve never had a downtown Seattle barista even flinch when I asked for an iced coffee as a refill, after having a much more expensive iced beverage to start. I’m sorry that you were treated that way! The refill policy is designed to foster loyal customers just like you. (Oddly, I have had partners in Seattle stores outside of downtown (north Seattle) give me a hard time about it. It’s like as if north Seattle is very different.)
I agree, this is the most confused green level benefit, and the most abused. I once explained the refill policy to a customer (that after they leave the store it’s not considered a refill) but I still just said yes and gave them a refill. The next day, someone else is on till and she walks up and says “I had a latte at such and such store this morning at 8AM, so can you ring my iced coffee as a refill?” It was then 8PM. Classic example of abusing the rewards.
Another issue I have with this reward is I don’t feel as though it’s clear what the expectations are for how partners are to deal with abuse of the system. (to just say yes or to say no) This causes a great deal of inconsistency from barista to barista, from store to store. Personally, I’m for just saying yes and keeping them happy, especially considering that we dump out quite a bit of brewed/iced coffee throughout the day.
Great write up Melody!
Thanks for clarifying everything. Firstly, the free refills is probably my most favorite perk and likely my most used with the free tall beverage with a bag of coffee coming in a close second.
What I don’t love is people who abuse thus benefit with reckless abandon. It’s the people who walk in with a cup in their bag that’s clearly more than a day old and demand a refil. In this case the customer is not always right and I’d hate to lose this benefit because the small minority took advantage of Starbucks generosity.
As I said before, I think it’s a good idea to have this series on the ‘rewards’. This one seldom affects me but, even before it was a ‘reward’, I have never had a barista not give me a coffee refill if I asked…even a shot, instead. (which is actually less expensive than a ‘short’ coffee) I do see this ‘abused’ alot, too…..altho not as much as the people who come in, order NOTHING and just take a fresh newspaper and walk out. I realize that’s off the “refill” topic but something I see abused regularly. ticks me off….. 🙁
Also, along the lines of ‘just say yes’, as difficult as that may be at times, I think any good business worth its salt has this policy….in some form or other.
Hayley & anyone else who is interested : Im on my kindle sitting in the Starbucks at Westlake and Denny (store 10303). I ordered a grande cool lime Refresher and Im sitting here and drank it.I need to get out of here because I have groceries with me. I drank the Refresher and went up to the register and just now asked for a tall iced coffee as a refill. Klint at the register didn’t wince or flinch or anything – he just said a friendly yes. Later, I asked him if he just said yes because he easily just says yes, or did he know the refill policy. He stated he has been a partner for 2 years and definitely knows that is a refill. Iam impressed. I have got to go!
I had a longer comment typed out, and now it is lost in cyberspace – grrr…
I will just say that this is my least favourite of the benefits because a) I rarely use it, and we *know* it should all be about me 😀 and b) I find it the hardest to manage – it is difficult to find the balance between ‘just say yes’ and enforcing policies on this one, as there are soo many gray areas – it is equally possible that a customer came in and got a coffee before I was on shift, was sitting around the corner where I couldn’t see him, and is now asking for a refill, just as it is equally possible that he got his coffee 3 hours ago at the store across the street. How does one easily tell the difference?
And to all who asked, in my district/area, our understanding of the refill policy is that if you use a registered card to pay for any beverage, your cup will be refilled with your choice of one of the 4 beverages that qualify. I see no reason (though I agree the wording is ambiguous) to ask you to pay less for your first beverage in order to get a free refill.
Also, as an FYI, in Canada, there is no refill price. It is the same price as your first cup (minus the cup discount) unless you have a registered card, so this perk has more value for us.
Ah well, this turned out nearly as long as the comment I lost 🙂
A traditional coffee shop doesn’t even charge for refills! So why should Starbucks?
I understand why Starbucks wants you to stay in the store but if you buy it in a strip mall shop, wander around and then go back for a refill why not get a free refill? Otherwise the shop would be awfully crowded while folks downed their first cup.
Also, I believe the ‘pour-over’ answer is a yes. I don’t earn any extra labour for a pour-over, and I don’t believe it’s in the same vein as Clover/coffee mistos – it is simply an alternative way to have a brewed coffee.
@Mark – If you are sitting in a diner or a greasy spoon, you can drink lots of coffee. It’s so cheap – It’s been brewed in a traditional coffee maker (yuck), and the cost of it is probably absorbed by the food. But a real coffeehouse is a different story. There are plenty of coffee houses in Seattle where every cup of coffee is a custom cup(pour over, press, Clover), and there are no big urns of coffee sitting around.
I think that here in Seattle, Diva Espresso is one of the only places I know of where you just get free refills all day with your Diva Espresso paper cups.
If you go to Specialty’s Bakery here in Seattle, and you bring in your own cup, it’s always 99 cents to fill the cup, no matter how often you are there, and there is no way to get it free.
As I recall, Tully’s (at least a long while ago) had signs in their store that said one free refill while in store.
To be able to just “walk in” and get a free refill, and walk out ? That seems to be mostly a Starbucks thing. And trust, me I GET that they make BILLIONS in profit every year, and they’re a prosperous business with very high margin beverages, but I still think – at least here in Seattle – the refill policy is out of control. Customers in downtown Seattle think that your empty cup – having bought one coffee in the morning – means free refills all day. It’s incredibly prevalent.
Denise R (and sorry Melody I know this is off topic) I shared a smile and an acknowledgement with you re the taking of newspapers! So many people do that not only at my local SB but I have seen it at other stores.
Free refills are the most important benefit to me because I am able to spend as much time as I want in Starbucks. But abuse of this benefit is as you say is incredibly prevalent and to me very annoying. no easy answer to this problem.
Long time Stabucks gold level customer, but I’ve never used this reward. And I’m still a little confused (I may have misread, so I’m sorry if I missed the answers to my questions).
So … do you take your cup up to the counter when you ask? And your card, and they scan your card again? And do you have to specifically say, “as a free refill”?
Also, what’s the 54 cent reference?
Honestly, it seems so odd to me to order and drink an espresso beverage (which is what I do when I do sit in the store, which is seldom) then go up and ask for a free cup of coffee. Which I’d probably take and walk out the door. That’s much more than free refills in a diner.
Why can’t baristas just mark the cups with the date and time- or kindly insist the customer show their receipt if they use a reusable container?
Its honestly surprising how hard this is for some people to grasp, not to sound rude but its very simple in my opinion. I use this benefit all the time (so much so that last october, the partners at the Starbucks I go to gave me the nickname “refills,” they still call me that today!). Last year I had to write a rather important term paper, so I went to Starbucks to type it, I can comfortably say I stayed there for about 3 and a half hours and got about 5 refills of my coffee. Anyway… the partners at my store know and understand the MSR program very well and for that, im grateful!
Sorry for two comments but I would like to ask, can you get refills on refreshers? I love them but I have not yet stayed in the store to see…
Hi Blakeco123! I’m pretty sure the official policy is that there is no refill benefit on Refreshers. Just too expensive of a drink. Tell the partners in your store to come read this! 😀
It’ll be interested to see what will happen with Refreshers. As I understand it, Starbucks is struggling to keep up with demand – especially the lime one. They could try to quickly launch new flavors or just pull the lime one. The lime Via is completely sold out everywhere I go to see downtown Seattle.
We have some people take advantage of this, but we know who has stayed in store (we have a smaller cafe) and have no problem saying no and explaining the rules to them..they are always nice and understanding (which I think comes from how nice we are in explaining things to them).
We, however, do not give a coffee refill if the person bought a tall mocha and now wants a free “refill” of pike place. If you bought a brewed coffee, you’ll get a refill of brewed coffee…not iced coffee, not iced tea…whatever you bought first. We do, however, let you change it up – if you ordered an iced tall green tea and want a refill of iced passion tea, go right ahead, we’ll gladly do that for you.
Matt – You might want to double check with the BRM and SSC partners – Your comment is an example of why I wrote that people who are entitled (what Starbucks contemplates and TELLS customers) will be told “no” by some stores. Or, are you following a different refill policy because you’re outside of the United States? Now, I’m confused! It just doesn’t make sense to say, please spend a lot less to get a refill. I would challenge you to look into that. 🙂
To the poster above who said Canadian Starbucks do not have the refill policy, you are incorrect. We have had it as long as you have.
@Oscar, you are right, Canada has the same Rewards Refill policy as the USA. However, in the states they offer $0.50 refills to non Starbucks Card holders. In Canada a non card holder will pay the same price for a refill as the first cup minus a 0.10 charge for bringing their own cup.
Thanks Becca – yes, that’s what I meant to say – no special 50 cent refill price, just a cup discount 🙂 unless you have a registered card.
Nice name btws 🙂
@Melody ya I have noticed how quickly the Vias go, personally I love the Lime Via but when it comes to an in-store refresher I prefer the Berry hibiscus. It would be interesting to see what new flavors Starbucks will introduce, (if they will) its a very innovative idea and I’d love to see where they are going to take it!
I personally love the canned versions. I also really enjoy the Via Refreshers. Oddly enough, the hand-crafted versions are my least favorite. We keep hoping to receive more and then I’m going to try the Via Refresher mixed with Seltzer Water. I think that might turn out to be a very cost efficient way to enjoy them anytime.
I wonder does the iced green tea latte qualify for free refill? I am not sure since i saw iced green tea latte is under starbucks’ [Tea] category in the iPhone app.
does anyone know/tried?
@Milo – Sorry to not get back to you sooner. If you stay IN store, you cannot receive another “green tea latte” (whether hot or iced) at the “refill” price/as a perk. You could receive iced tea, such as passion, black or green iced tea – But that would be just tea with classic syrup (or unsweetened if you like) but would not be any of the fancier tea-drinks like tea-lattes, or tea-lemonades.
Once you walk out of the store, on your next trip in, you will always pay full price, and there is no refill benefit at all.
I hope that helps.
Pour overs are definite refill items. Remember the policy before pour overs – they would brew a new pot of the one they had stopped brewing and give it to you for free.
Secondly, has anyone noticed that the app purchase will give you a refill in the same day free? The store can ring the Full price, but it will ring as an MSR free refill
I’m probably too late with this, but I’m a gold card customer and definitely use the refill policy. Tonight at my regular Starbucks i went up for an iced tea refill and the manager charged me full price. I noted that it was a refill and she said “…on a Trenta” I said yes and she responded that they don’t do refills on Trentas and never have (blatant bullhockey btw) I didn’t argue, just kind of shook my head and walked off. She’s always been a bit of a tightass, but I wondered it this was in any way grounded in policy reality (which is why I’m here now) Also on a related but different note, I was told by a barista at my regular store to just start asking for my tea with no water since I like more tea than water. So, I was an a different store, asked for my drink with no water and got charged full price PLUS a refill. I was confused and said so. The poor barista said he had recently gotten yelled at by his manager and was told that getting the iced tea with no water is equivalent to getting another drink (really? Come on!) and that was the policy. I told the poor boy not to worry about it and do what he needed, but seriously, ANY truth to that one either? I did find it ironic that it was a barista that told me to order it with no water in the first place…
Deb – That barista was completely wrong on the no water thing. The rule is that they fill the tea to a line on the shaker. If you want no water, they don’t add water to the next line, instead putting more ice. If that barista was putting more tea, that was their fault.
As for no refills on trentas, we already know that’s garbage.
The Register won’t allow a you to
ring a Trenta refill.
As someone that always gets iced green tea with no water at all and little ice, I can assure you there is no extra charge for this and I have not had many issues with getting it this way. I like more tea than ice and although partners sometimes look at me like they do not understand why I would enjoy it this way, I get it that way. Sometimes I even get partners that are thrilled I like it the way they like it!
I don’t know the official rule on this. I would think though, baristas would just put more tea in the shaker if it’s no water. I mean, it IS a very high margin beverage which is why it’s part of the “free refill” offerings. It’s not worth to turn into the tea-sheriff, imho. I have no idea what the Trenta rule is.
Trenta refills are no problem on Simphony, I don’t know about any other register systems. We have a couple guests who do this every day. I can’t imagine drinking that much in one visit, but they manage it and we happily refill their teas as many times as they’d like. Anyone getting no water automatically gets more tea, unless they specifically request something else. We’re not about to hand out a half empty cup.
This is 3rd place stuff: be welcoming, be genuine, be knowledgeable, etc. Ultimately, even if you feel someone is ‘cheating the system,’ this is how Starbucks designed it so that we can enthusiastically satisfy our customers every day. What little profit we lose on the few people who utilize the refill policy to the fullest, we gain in customer loyalty. These same people will tell their friends and family to come to our stores. Loyalty programs like this one are designed specifically to create relationships and foster a sense of community. If someone comes up with a request you haven’t heard before, just say yes. Your DM will back you up 99% of the time if you are creating positive experiences.
@magickat how do you ring a trenta
tea refill on Symphony?
Venti and other size tea refill works
Trenta tea refill says item not active.
Thanks for all the feedback on this! I walked into the store tonight and the assistant manager said “I’m supposed to give you a free drink” apparently he or someone else filled the store manger in on the policy. She was apparently trained incorrectly. Anyway, she felt bad and the free drink was her apology. It really wasn’t her charging me full price that bothered me most, it was that she was really a bitch about it. That’s no way to treat an everyday customer. Anyway, I appreciate her acknowledging her error and making up for it. Takes guts to do that.
I’m currently sitting in a Starbucks in Canada and I ordered a Grande Caramel Brule latte. I’m at Green level and paid with my card. I went up and asked the barista if I could have a refill of coffee, he said no, that I had to purchase a coffee to get a coffee. Guess they do it differently at this one.
Meaghan, The answer should have been yes. Hang on to your receipt & call customer service. Store number will be on the receipt. On my phone, sorry so sloppy.
I had the same problem that Meaghan had at store 8748! Bought a peppermint latte, tried the refill…nope, 50 cents!
Hi Araceli! Welcome to the blog! When I read your post, it’s not clear to me that anything was out of order. I can’t tell because there’s not much information in your post.
If you had a peppermint latte, and then asked for Pike Place Roast in your cup, then it is a “refill.” Which sounds like you were charged 50 cents for a refill, which is right. It only becomes a free refill when you pay for that refill with a registered Starbucks card (with money on it) at the green level or higher. You can register your card at http://starbucks.com/card
Hope that helps!