Recently a reader (Sebastian) sent me some photos from a Starbucks he visited in San Francisco while on vacation there. The Starbucks itself looks like most any other Starbucks, but that store location (I’m nearly sure) has a very unique history. I believe that store started as a Circadia, which was a short-lived experiment by Starbucks. Though before I go any further I should clarify something: After doing some research I agonized over whether to post this blog post at all. I attempted to figure out for certain if this Starbucks (located at Kansas Street & 16th in San Francisco) was indeed the Circadia experiment store, and I while my research told me it was most likely the right store, I was never 100% certain.
This store’s contact information is as follows:
- Starbucks
- 350 Rhode Island St
btw 16th & 17th St
San Francisco, CA 94103
(415) 864-6383
I owe a huge debt of gratitude to two people who helped me put together this blog post. Sebastian, a twitter friend, mailed me the photographs which are attached. Also, my friend “@enotsd” (also a twitter friend) did an enormous amount of leg work helping me with research on the Circadia experiment. Thank you both.
And now for a little Circadia history – A full service Starbucks-like establishment, branded as Circadia:
In 1997, Starbucks partnered with a food service start up, Circadia Flatbread Oven, to open Circadia branded cafes serving Starbucks coffee, and operating like a full-service coffeehouse. See Puget Sound Business Journal, October 11, 2002. The experiment lasted for about two years, with one store in downtown Seattle, and the other in San Francisco. Id. An additional Circadia location apparently later opened in Palo Alto during this time frame. USA Today, September 17, 1999, Final Edition. The Circadia in San Francisco was described as being 3,100 square feet, and graced with antique furnishings, red velvet curtains, and well-worn couches. In addition, Circadia had a full breakfast, lunch and dinner menu, a liquor bar, and live music. Entrepreneur Magazine, June 1, 1999. Customers could sip a mocha or a martini, and there was no apparent branding of the Starbucks name. Id.
One aspect of Circadia that was different than Starbucks was the strict line between what could be “cooked” in a store. Starbucks maintains the view that food odors could compromise venerable coffee beans. “Starbucks says it wouldn’t dream of installing kitchens in the coffee bars. ‘We’re never going to cook anything in an existing Starbucks – – never,’ declares Howard Schultz founder of the modern Starbucks chain and its exacting chairman and chief executive.” Wall Street Journal, March 16, 1999.
Circadia had 18 internet connections, laptop rentals, a computer kiosk and a ten-person conference room equipped with a large screen computer for presentations. The meeting room rented for $50 an hour, and a laptop rented for 90 minutes was $9.50. San Francisco Chronicle, February 4, 1999. Circadia’s sandwiches, like eggplant caponata, averaged about $6.50 and fancy desserts like white chocolate blueberry tart were around $5.00. Id.
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The above paints a picture of what the Circadia chain was like. It sounds a bit like Olive Way meets 15th Avenue Coffee and Tea. An off-shoot of those two stores blended together sounds a bit like Circadia.
The downtown Seattle Circadia store opened July 19, 1997 and was located at the corner of 4th and Seneca (now a beautiful and excellent Starbucks). (See Puget Sound Business Journal, July 11, 1997).
The photos below, from October 2010, show the current state of the Starbucks at 16th and Kansas Street, in San Francisco, which is now a neighborhood store with a Clover coffee brewer.
As always, I hope you enjoyed your Starbucks history lesson! Tell me what you think!
(Last but not least, I realize that this above blog article wouldn’t pass a law school “Blue Book” proof-read, but this blog is just my hobby, and eats up all my free time. It’s not a law journal.)
MAJOR EDIT November 27, 2010: PLEASE READ!
I should have trusted my gut that said the 16th and Kansas wasn’t the right store!!! Ugh! I had asked a couple of people and I remember being told that was the right store, but once I saw even a few exterior photos, I thought ‘that can’t be right’.
One major plus of having numerous readers and twitter followers is that if I make a mistake, it won’t be long before someone tells me I am wrong. I appreciate that. It is NOT my goal to haphazardly throw content up and then walk away from it. I want to get it right. For this blog post, please know that you are essentially reading two unrelated blog articles merged as one. Since the store on 16th & Kansas was not the Circadia store, it could have just been its own blog post.
Essentially, the content about the Circadia history is correct, and I’ve got some nice photos, but the two things don’t tie together! Hahaha! Well, if you want to see a store that definitely was a Circadia, go back and re-read my blog article about the Fourth and Seneca Starbucks in downtown Seattle.
A long term San Francisco resident, and a twitter follower @KarlSF tells me that the Starbucks that was the Circadia was at Mariposa and Bryant Streets in San Francisco. That would have been Starbucks store number 6605 – This store.
I write this edit with great apologies to my readers! If you want to go back and look at the Fourth and Seneca Starbucks in Seattle, which definitely was a Circadia in 1997, that blog post is here.
I am not going to withdraw or depublish this blog article: It is still interesting. I like the photos and the history of Circadia is interesting! I might have to soon take a drive (or flight) to San Francisco quickly and pop into the Starbucks on Mariposa and Bryant. I can’t not do a blog post on it, and it is definitely on my short list of stores to get to now.
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Don’t think I’ve ever heard of Circadia. It -does- sound like 15th Ave Coffee & Tea meets Roy Street…
Thanks to your contributors for the info & photos!
That is a beautiful store with enough brightness, and Clover machine. It looks like Renton village store.
Thank you @sbirr and @enotsd !
Wow! This looks and sounds amazing! I really wish I could see some of these lovely stores. Arizona seems so boring in comparison!
Hi there LatteRose, Nob, and Diele:
@LatteRose – Welcome back! I know you were gone on vacation for a while.
@Nob – It looks like the Renton Village Store? I guess I can see some resemblance. 🙂
@Diele – Well this blog post is 1997 to 1999 Starbucks history because those were the years of the Circadia experiment, but the funny thing is that it feels like a very current episode because in Seattle if you look at Olive Way, 15the Avenue Coffee, and Roy Street, well, it feels like a reincarnation of Circadia to a small degree.
I just love the history behind these stores! My store is one of the oldest in the area, but it really does not have the whole ambiance of the stores you blog about. I really wish we had the room for a Clover! That would definitely add to the experience.
Just stopping by for a little StarbucksMelody class.
Another intriguing piece of Starbucks History as only Melody and her helpful resources can present.
Will there be a test? 😉
Wow, I worked for Starbucks for 7 years, but never heard of this venture.
I’ve been to this Starbucks a few times. It’s a great one! I go there for the Clover.
@SbuxMel Actually, the original Circadia concept store was at Mariposa and Bryant Streets in SF. I know because I used to go. After the concept failed, it was converted into a regular Starbuck store. Here’s a link to a 1999 Salon article talking about the place: http://www.salon.com/21st/feature/1999/01/21feature.html
I too never knew of this and certainly have not seen any on the east coast. Nice concept. Thanks all for the research. So interesting to hear about what SB did a while back and where they are now!
I had never heard of Circadia concept, however it seems Starbucks keeps having small forways into food – Olive way, 15th ave, the toasted breakfast sandwiches…
@AmazonV – I agree. It appears to me that Starbucks is continually trying to “crack” the code on a few things that may actually be part of their “core.”
I work for a big company and have for some time now. One of the interesting things that has happened over time is that new people come in and suggest “new” ideas that have actually been tried before. Sometimes they’re tried again, sometimes they’re shot down (“we’ve tried that before.”) Often it’s the tenure of the senior leadership that determines whether or not it’s new and is actually tried once more.
I don’t think Starbucks is completely doing the same thing here. After all, Howard has held the most senior of leadership posts for quite some time (even when he stepped down from CEO, he was still top dog).
These things that they keep trying (but also don’t quite succeed with yet) all seem to be original (or close to original) extensions of the core “Starbucks Experience.”) Perhaps they are part of Howard’s dream/vision of what Starbucks is supposed to be and that he is simply continuing to try to make it a reality (I personally like that thought and would like it to be so).
I see this pattern of trying to crack the code not just with Circadia/15th Avenue, but also with HearMusic/AppleiTunes/SDN, Joe/WayISeeIt/Good, etc. Each an attempt to build out the core of the Starbucks Experience – especially from a “connection” and “community” point of view.
I hope they succeed. And I’m glad that they keep trying.
In the meantime, Starbucks could actually take a cue from Melody. She really has created a great community here where people connect over coffee (or Tea, in your case @AmazonV!)
I have thought for a very long time that the SSC should hire Melody as a “Core-ist” or Historian who would be used as a steward and a reality check before new initiatives are launched from the SSC.
@Melody – perhaps a future blog post could compare and contrast some of the repeated attempts that Starbucks has made over the years and you could find people from Starbucks to interview about lessons learned.
Also @AmazonV – I’ve been out for a few days, I owe you a followup on that research, I’ll send it to you.
Great post, Mel! 🙂
I agree CD and well said. I really think that SB needs to listen to Melody and what she says on this blog and the great community that has developed as a result of her blog. I am not sure, however, that the new or revisited programs that SB puts into the stores will work unless they can change the work ethic of those that work the floor and deal with the customers. As has been said before, the passion wanes up and down depending on the store and baristas in them. Perhaps, there needs to be some new focus groups set up to really discuss these topics. Basically, has SB learned anything from their mistakes and their successes?
@CD Thank you for such a detailed response, it really seems you might be close to the truth in there, or at least it seems perfectly plausable 🙂
I have to say i really enjoyed my vists to both 15th Ave and Roy street when I visited Seattle, and i hope to go back for the NW tea festival next year and visit Olive way.
I’ll be in san francisco in december, perhaps I can sneak a visit in to this store? not sure since it’s about a < 48 hour trip 🙁
Thanks for the clarification @karlsf
As a longtime resident of San Francisco who lived just down the street from Circadia, I remember it well. I’m really surprised at just how little information there is about it online. I only found this blog because it came up highest in search results. It’s almost as if SB has tried not just to erase all evidence of Circadia’s existence from the real world, but from the internet as well.
Circadia was fairly successful. It was an area with virtually no foot traffic, but it was surrounded by many startup offices at the height of the dot-com boom. As the Salon article states, it was very well designed and positioned towards the anti-SB crowd. I think the only reason that it failed was because it was inevitably outed as a SB, and people felt betrayed. They seem to be a little bit more open about their newer non-SB brands, so it will be interesting to see how those fare.
Hi Matt! Thank you for coming by and weighing in on Circadia. I wish I had gone to it. I briefly lived in San Francisco, but wasn’t the kind of Starbucks fan then as I am now, and I think I moved to SF shortly after the Circadia experiment was over (I lived there 2001 to 2004). You are definitely right that they are better now about having nothing undercover about their newer non-branded Starbucks, though as those stores hire outside hires who have never worked for the brand, I’ve heard partners at the registers distance themselves a bit from Starbucks, though it still is pretty obvious it is run by Starbucks – Well, at least to me it is obvious.
Thaniks again for commenting, and hope to see you back again soon!
Melody
Oh…HaHa! That’s not bad…I also have a photo of the Bryant / Mariposa store on my computer and I have been there, too. But I don’t remember the inside or anything of it.
But anyway..the store on Kansas and 16th was also very nice. 😀
Thanks for posting about this! I used to go to Circadia at night. I was part of a very large lesbian social group and we used to go there regularly. Initially did NOT know it was SB and was a tad ticked to learn the trickery… however, it was a totally fantastic place. I am in the midwest now and a place like Circadia is just a wish… it was really great fun and the decor was really great along with being able to buy food, alcohol and coffee and have music, etc. I happened to think of it because the cicadas (insect) are out in full force and well the names are similar, so I thought I’d google the old haunt. Enjoy my beloved SF!
I lived in SF while Circadia was around (yes, it was on Mariposa), and it was a great place to write and meet friends. There were several different areas or regions within the space, from solo to communal desks to loungy/living room sections. It got a little funky on weekend nights when they tried to have live music because it didn’t quite work; but clearly they were trying different things to see what would work (i.e. turn a profit).
Those who followed cafe culture in SF found the place, although apparently not enough people did, and the people who worked there never hid that it was a new venture by Starbucks. So, odd to read that people were upset and betrayed by this fact. So, they are now happy that we don’t have a place like this rather than having a place like this owned by Starbucks? A complete loss of perspective and rationality rooted in a knee-jerk anti-corporationism.
@KVE – Welcome and thank you for kicking up an old but interesting blog post. I still find this an interesting segment of Starbucks history. I think Circadia had just ended when I moved to SF in the fall of 2001. There are a few Starbucks stores that are super unique in what they do – Live music, elevated food offerings, or just something totally unique. There just aren’t many of them: The Harvard Yard Starbucks really does have enough room for live music, and they regularly have it there. The 15th Avenue Coffee and Tea Starbucks has some local foods, and a manual espresso machine. And Olive Way Starbucks has an “elevated” food menu with very unique offerings, and really great regular coffee events. Anyways, thanks again for your insight. I can imagine any Starbucks in SF will be too small for live music. Hope you will “like” the blog (facebook widget is in right column).
~Melody
This was in my ‘hood. I really liked the Circadia store at 16th & Bryant. I was sad when it switched to a regular Starbucks, though I still frequent it.
oops….yes, it was/is Mariposa & Bryant across from KQED.
I remember the Circadia on 4th Avenue in Downtown Seattle. But in my memory it was a co-branded Starbucks/Circadia outlet. One side was strictly a Starbucks with a separate order counter and register. The other side was Circadia. But there was a common seating area. But I also remember that before there was a Circadia there, the location was Starbucks along with a bagel shop whose name escapes me. However, after the Circadia experiment ended, I recall this location becoming a Cafe Starbucks which was also another short lived concept.
Here is what I dug up from a 1997 edition from the Puget Sound Business Journal:
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/1997/07/14/story2.html?page=all
Beautiful store and concept! Just read about it in a Starbucks book I bought.